Tempest Holdem

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I haven't played exact all in or fold on GGpoker but I played 'Tempest holdem' or whatever its called on stars and I didn't like it, if you can make profit then edge is really small and variance.

The tables show the highest effective stack size in big blinds where a hand can be pushed or called. Values bigger than 20 are only displayed as 20+, which means the hand can be played for any stack size of 20bb or less. (Playing push-or-fold is typically only recommended up to around 10bb, depending on the situation. Using push-or-fold for >20bb is almost certainly a bad idea.)

1. Introducing Deep Water and PokerStars Tempest. Let’s start with the similarities. Both games are 6-Max No Limit Hold’em, but with three blinds instead of two. Alongside the traditional Small Blind and Big Blind, we have added the Giant Blind, which is double the value of the Big Blind.
2. Deep Water Hold’em and PokerStars Tempest Hold’em are two new cash game variations that industry leader PokerStars is introducing for a limited time. Both variants are now playable. Deep Water Hold’em is mostly based on Texas Hold’em. What’s new is that ante bets increase when a hand ends without a showdown.

Some hands have gaps in their pushing strategies, they are marked with * and the details are displayed below the charts. For example 63s is included in the pushing strategy for stack sizes between 7.1 and 5.1bb, and stacks below 2.3bb.

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SB (9.0bb): T3s
BB (6.0bb): Q2o

The effective stack size is the smaller of the two, before posting any blinds. So the relevant stack size for both players in this hand is 6.0 big blinds.

To find the strategy for SB's T3s, check the green area (suited hands) of the 'Pusher' chart. The value for T3s is 7.7bb, and since that is larger than the current effective stacks the hand is a push in the Nash Equilibrium strategy.

To determine if the BB should call with his Q2o, check the orange area (offsuit hands) of the 'Caller' chart and locate Q2o. The value there is 5.6bb. The effective stacks in the current hand are larger than the value for Q2o, so this hand is a fold in the Nash Equilibrium strategy.

This example refers to the no ante solution. If the table values don't match the example then make sure the 'No Ante' tab is selected above.

The solution available on this site was independently calculated and published in 2007 as part of a coding experiment, inspired by the discussion of the topic in Mathematics of Poker.

Similar charts have been published by various sources, including SNGPT and Mathematics of Poker, and there are some minor differences between them. The exact Nash solution is considerably more complex and the chart only shows a simplified version. Most hands are actually played with mixed strategies for at least a few stack sizes, and many hands have multiple smaller gaps in their strategy, similar to the 63s, 53s, 43s hands. These details are omitted in the chart to allow a compact representation of the strategy.

The differences in published solutions are most likely due to choices made when simplifying the exact solution into easy-to-use charts. Due to the considerable number of rather arbitrary choices when simplifying into chart form, it is actually quite unlikely that two independently created charts would perfectly match.

The file linked below contains the unsimplified push-or-fold equilibrium strategies for all stacks of 1bb ≤ stacks ≤ 200bb in steps of 0.05bb. This data can be used to derive the charts. For practical purposes the chart form should be completely sufficient though.

Tempest Holdem Strategie

The data linked here was re-calculated with a later version than the original chart data, so there may be some very slight differences.